Bad News in Overtime. What do we do now? Basketball Rules Expert Podcast – Ep. 12

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Mistakes are made in the game of basketball. The rules offer us a way to handle the situations when they occur Become a Basketball Rules Expert and get it right

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Much appreciated and much love. If you want to be a supporter of the show, you can always buy us a coffee. There’s a link in the show notes below. Today we’re drawing from the question deck, looking at questions trying to find the rules support for those questions, any definitions we can have but also underlying principles and concepts, so that we have a super strong breadth of understanding of National Federation of High School rules.


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Greetings everyone we’re back in the studio for another episode of Basketball Rules Expert, the YouTube show where we take the National Federation of High School rules off of the printed page, breathe life into them and provide simplicity. Clarify, amplify and they give them back to you in a form that you can take with you on to the basketball courts. Greetings, my name is Greg Austin with abetterofficial.com. I’ve been officiating high school basketball for over a decade, and I am a basketball rules expert. This show is all about helping you on your journey to becoming a basketball rules, expert, as well.

Shout out to show supporters,
Daniel Huffman.
Robert Adams,
Peter Ha, and
John Turzer with the Maui association of high school basketball officials

Much appreciated and much love. If you want to be a supporter of the show, you can always buy us a coffee. There’s a link in the show notes below. Today we’re drawing from the question deck, looking at questions trying to find the rules support for those questions, any definitions we can have but also underlying principles and concepts, so that we have a super strong breadth of understanding of National Federation of High School rules. Let’s get started with our first question.

Question
2 minutes into overtime the scorer tells the officials that a scoring error had been made in the fourth period. Team A wasn’t correctly, awarded a point, and should have been ahead at the end of regulation. What shall the officials do
A, do not add a point to Team A’s score. It’s too late to correct
B, add the point to Team A and resume playing in overtime.
C replay the overtime period from the beginning.
D, stop play immediately and declare Team A the winner. As the overtime should not have started.

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Okay, it’s a sticky situation. This is not obviously not a common scenario but we are into overtime. The scorer informs the officials that a mistake had been made in the fourth period. A point should have been awarded to one of the teams. If it had been properly awarded, there would be no overtime. They would have been the winner at the end of regulation. How do we handle this situation?

Answer A: don’t add a point, it’s too late to correct. This is not a correctable error situation; this is a bookkeeping error. The point was properly scored, but in transcribing the results of what happened on the court a point was failed to be awarded in the score book. So this is not a correctable error situation, which means that correctable errors and restrictions do not apply. Add the point to Team A and resume play in overtime. Sounds like a good solution. Let’s look at the others replay the overtime period from the beginning. We have no authority to do that whatsoever. Stop play immediately and declare Team A the winner, as the overtime should not have started. That makes sense logically. Understand that problems like this and situations like this can and do occur in the game. They occur at all levels of basketball. The rules are in place to define how to handle these situations when mistakes are made. There are human beings involved in each aspect of the game, players playing coaches coaching officials officiating table personnel doing their jobs. They are human beings mistakes are made. So, we just need to know how to properly handle when mistakes are made. So in this instance, we’re gonna take a look at Rule 5-7-4. Once the ball becomes live in the extra period, it will be played. Even though a correction in the fourth quarter score is made.

So once we’ve begun the overtime period. There’s nothing you’re going to say about, wait. The score was wrong at the end of overtime, or at the end of regulation or one of the players had fouled out and they’ve been playing in the overtime, or one team was out of timeouts or any scenario that might arise. Once we started the overtime period, we will play the overtime period by rule. So, we’re going to make the correction to our bookkeeping error that occurred in the score book, we will add the point to Team A, and we will resume playing in overtime with that point added. It’s as simple as that. So our correct answer is: B. Add the point to Team A and resume play in overtime.

 

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Question. After A1 terminates their dribble, which of these things may one bounce the ball off of, and then go recover the ball and legally begin another dribble.
A Team B’s back board.
B. Player A
C an official on the court or
D, none of the above.
Alright, just to clarify what we have here we have a player who’s legally dribbling the basketball. They terminate their dribble, pick up their dribble. And what, which of these actions can they perform. And then, legally dribble again. Opponents’ backboard team made official on the court, which can they bounce those off, or none of the above. Let’s take a look at rule 4-4-4 a ball which touches a player or an official is the same as the ball, touching the floor at that individual’s location. So, an A player or an official is the same contacts them. It’s the same as the ball, touching the floor, a ball which touches the front faces or the edges of a backboard is treated the same as touching the floor in bounds. If the ball contacts. The back board, it is considered to have contacted the floor by rule. So, if a player legally dribbles terminates their dribble throws the ball off the backboard. And then retrieves the basketball. They have essentially dribble the ball terminated their dribble bounced the ball on the floor and picked up the basketball. This is a violation. This action would be considered an illegal dribble by rule. Rule 9-5. A player must not dribble a second time after his or her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of a try for goal. A touch by an opponent dislodges the ball, a pass or fumble which has been touched, or been touched by another player that player terminates. They fake a pass. the ball. They fumble; the ball falls to the floor, another player bats the ball, the player that picks up picks the ball up, and begins up dribble, again, legal, because it their dribble, their status of having dribbled already has been cleansed by the fact that a ball which they passed or fumbled has contacted another player. Notice in the rule, another player refers to any of the other nine players. Four teammates and five opponents. If it touches any of them. So, in our original question teammates back board, a player who’s terminated their dribble cannot bounce the ball off of the backboard and then go retrieve it. That would be considered a second dribble and a violation by rule. And official on the court. Remember, an official or a player has the status of the floor than which they stand, an official who’s standing in bounds. The player throws the ball off the official. "Sorry ref!", retrieves the ball. This would be a violation by rule, same as off the backboard, because both the opponent’s backboard, and the official are considered to have the same status as the floor. So both of those actions are illegal. How about Player A, the teammate?
Right. He wasn’t paying attention but I just bounced it off his backside, then go retrieve the ball, and start dribbling again.

The player’s status as having used a dribble is cleansed when the ball is on a pass or a fumble ball has been touched, or is touched by another player, and that would be any player. Four teammates and five opponents, off of anybody. When they touch the basketball player, they can then dribble, again, so our answer to this question is: b player A2 it would be illegal to bounce the ball off a teammate, or an opponent retrieve the ball, and to begin a legal dribble

Question.
When is it permissible for a player who has blood on his or her uniform to remain in the game, while blood exists on that uniform.
A, when an official determines the blood has not saturated the uniform.
B when medical personnel determine the blood has not saturated the uniform.
C. Never. If the uniform has any amount of blood on it, it shall not be worn
D, none of the above.

National Federation of High School is very clear about blood on uniforms. Any amount of blood is not allowed by rule on a player’s uniform. If blood is discovered, they must leave the game until it’s rectified. There are many opportunities for teams to rectify a situation where a player has blood on their uniform, a replacement jersey etc. One that’s not borne by a teammate or one that’s won by a team, it can be borrowed by that player. All of those are available, but blood on a uniform is not allowed by room. So this question is pretty simple. It doesn’t involve saturation of blood in the uniform. Never. If the uniform has any amount of blood on it, it shall not be worn simple, straightforward National Federation of high school rules, no amount of blood is allowed on a uniform. So the answer is C. Never. If the uniform has any amount of blood on it, it shall not be worn.

Thank you for joining us today on Basketball Rules Expert that YouTube show all about helping you become a better basketball official by having a better understanding of the rules. If this content is valuable it’s time to do all the things. Let’s hit like, subscribe, and notify also share with any other basketball officials that you think could find value. As always, we’ve created a quiz it’s back at the website, abetterofficial.com, there’s a link above and in the show notes below. If you want to be a supporter of the show, you can always buy us a coffee, there’s a link above and the show notes below. Alright fantastic we got additional video content for you here. Make your choice. Choose wisely. And we’ll see you in the next video. Take care.

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